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Today’s Moron: Alice Shannon, Anti-Atheist

November 3, 2008

Today’s Moron wrote a letter to the editor calling for all atheists to be thrown out of America because, you know, the country was founded on religion and she appears to believe being religious is legally binding.

Here’s the letter:

Thank you, Alice Shannon of Soldotna, Alaska, for your tremendous insight.

You’ll note that she goes on to link atheism to society’s woes, etc. You’ve heard it before. I know I have. Whether it’s atheism, patriotism, racism, whatever, if there’s a newspaper with a letters page, some crackpot will take advantage of it.

This letter isn’t new. It appeared more than a year ago. But it’s resurfacing now because of the recent rise of anti-atheism in the US election campaign. Religion has again become a concern for voters, some of whom think Barack Obama is a Muslim, others who think Sarah Palin’s a bit too Christian … it really shouldn’t matter, and thankfully in Canada it doesn’t, but a lot of Americans are weird about things like that.

And you see that in letters to newspaper editors. Letters pages are a pretty accurate reflection of how a community thinks. Especially in smaller centres, where the correspondence isn’t so much about world issues and ethical quandaries as it is about “thanks to the man who helped change my tire” and, as we saw above, extremists with a forum.

My own newspaper just printed a letter criticizing Barack Obama for “always crying racism whenever someone disagrees with him.” That’s not even remotely true. But, like Alice Shannon, this person found a way to spread his vitriol to thousands of readers.

Some papers censor these letters. Others edit them. But a lot, mine included, run them intact and let the readers make up their own minds. There’s a risk there, of course; I’m sure there are a lot of people in Alaska who agree with Alice Shannon (they did elect Sarah Palin, after all), but these people will always be able to find each other.

Now, if you go looking for background on the Alice Shannon letter, you get a lot of conflicting information. The newspaper in which it appeared later claimed it was a spoof, and Alice Shannon herself may have said something along those lines. Or maybe not. Like any Internet meme, it’s the effect, not the origin, that we remember.

But the fact is this letter is out there, with that name on it. And if it’s parody, it’s pretty bad, because a spoof only works if the reader eventually figures it out. This letter sounds like genuine intolerance, and genuine stupidity, and that’s dangerous, because it can inflame and encourage the very people it’s allegedly targeting.

We’ll never be rid of stupidity. It’s in our genes. But at least we can laugh at it. And as the years go on, and Alice’s letter keeps making the rounds of the Internet (I found it on digg), more people will chuckle at her moronity than will buy into her argument.

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11 comments

  1. That letter was a hoax.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/atheists.asp

    But I think it brings to light a sentiment that is very true about how the mainstream America views atheists. The Dole vs. Hagan campaign is another prime example of how anti-atheist bigotry is still completely acceptable in our nation. It saddens me greatly to know how much we’ll have to fight to beat back the McCarthy era bullshit that has sat and festered since the 50′s.. :(


  2. So someone writes a letter spoofing the Christian right. You then take that letter to represent the Christian right.

    You know what would be easier? Write your own letter! Write a letter that makes the sender look stupid. (First make sure that the sender is a member of a group you despise.) Then mock everyone associated with the mythical sender.

    That’s gold!


  3. ok ok first off athiest didn’t get prayer kicked out of the schools, other religions did because we could pray to our god but they couldn’t pray to theres and there parents didn’t want other religions force apon them. second prayer is still in schools its called F.C.A. and just cause some people don’t belive in god dosen’t mean there evil cause that would mean they belive in the devil wich would mean the belive in a god so athiest are not good nore evil. so if you want to kick athiest out of the contry then you would be kicking scientists out of the country as well then our country would surly fall cause theres no1 left to come up with new technology for this contry so mabey you should rethink a few things befor you start writhing them for other ppl to read and keep some of your opinions to yourself cause its aperent you don’t really know what the hell your talking about and if you belive in god then you should know not to judge others for what they belive in or lac there of, because only god can judge.

    Steven Nelsen


  4. Separation of church and state! If u wanna believe in a magic guy in the sky that hears all and sees all (Santa Clause), go ahead. But don’t judge the value of my life by your beliefs. Religion has killed more people than anything else in our recorded history. If people would use their’ minds instead of using religion as a crutch they would be amazed how much harm religion has caused.


  5. America has a new Adolf Alice Hitler Shannon!

    Jesus: “27 But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither and kill them before me.” ( Alice Shannon )

    Jesus: “27 πλὴν τοὺς ἐχθρούς μου τούτους τοὺς μὴ θελήσαντάς με βασιλεῦσαι ἐπ’ αὐτοὺς ἀγάγετε ὧδε καὶ κατασφάξατε αὐτοὺς ἔμπροσθέν μου.”

    Jesus “16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved: but he that believes not shall he condemned.”

    Jesus: “16 ὁ πιστεύσας καὶ βαπτισθεὶς σωθήσεται, ὁ δὲ ἀπιστήσας κατακριθήσεται.” ( Alice Shannon )

    Jesus: “15:5 I am the vine: you the branches. He that abides in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit: for without me you can do nothing.”

    Jesus: “6 If any one abide not in me, he shall be cast forth as a branch and shall wither: and they shall gather him up and cast him into the fire: and he burns.” ( Holocaust: Alice Shannon Hitler )

    Jesus: “15:5 ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ἄμπελος, ὑμεῖς τὰ κλήματα. ὁ μένων ἐν ἐμοὶ κἀγὼ ἐν αὐτῷ, οὗτος φέρει καρπὸν πολύν, ὅτι χωρὶς ἐμοῦ οὐ δύνασθε ποιεῖν οὐδέν.

    Jesus: “6 ἐὰν μή τις μένῃ ἐν ἐμοί, ἐβλήθη ἔξω ὡς τὸ κλῆμα καὶ ἐξηράνθη, καὶ συνάγουσιν αὐτὰ καὶ εἰς τὸ πῦρ βάλλουσιν, καὶ καίεται.”


  6. All religions are equal in my eyes – same shit, different silly hat. They will all bow before the Flying Spaghetti Monster’s noodly appendage anyway :-)


  7. The letter might have been a fake but it sadly represented many of the feelings people do have torwards atheists. I have no religion or no god i believe something is out there but i wouldnt say it’s a god.

    I don’t go to church but instead go to mexico every sunday and take clothes to poor families. I gives poor children food and when i come home i bring home a homeless animal and give them a new home.

    Am I evil because of this. I believe that instead of wasting my time on praying for something to happen i instead go out and do something to help better the world. Is that a sin?

    And also in the pledge of allegiance it’s not one nation under god,, it’s supposed to be one nation under citizens rule. because last time i checked it was not god who chooses our presidents, there is no divine right in our nation of america. But it is the people who run this country.

    Wow i am only seventeen but i understand alot of things. And what you people are saying about this is total segregation and discrimination. they guys are the nazis and the atheists are the jews.

    Do they want to kill the atheists too? i hope not.

    Stop attacking other people. Just because it makes you feel powerful. People become dictators this way.

    lets have peace…


  8. Just because some people don’t have a religion doesn’t mean they are evil. Religion is a set of guidelines written out that makes life a tad bit easier for people. That’s all. Morals are not gifts to the faithful, they are society’s codes for doing good and just have the foundations of religion built into them. And I disagree slightly with the comment about scientists…I know some scientists who are religious, but I still am friends with them.

    And freedom of religion does include no religion…you can choose not to have one…

    I am friends with both religious and non-religious people, some of whom are Mormon, Muslim, Jewish, Christian/Catholic, or Atheist/Agnostic, etc…we don’t argue about whose religion is correct, we discuss it in civilized ways and listen to everyone’s opinion.

    In fact, contrary to Alice’s comments, the people who are ruining the country and world are the people who are narrow-minded and think they are right about stuff like this. The people who don’t care who is what are doing the world good…it is called Diverity, Culture, Belief, and FREE WILL.


  9. As a fellow atheist, I am appalled by this blatant discrimination against a group’s lack of belief. The constitution is based on freedom of religion, but nowhere does it require an individual to believe. In fact, our founding fathers would have been just as appalled, considering many such as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were staunch Atheists. How can you assume the constitution requires belief when the authors had no faith? Theists claim the Bible teaches love and peace, but based on this article and other similar statements from the “faithful,” it is quite obvious that the love and peace is only in-group. My email will be provided, and I would sincerely like for someone to give an example of a war started by Atheists because they felt angered by another group’s beliefs. I can name a few that Christians alone did…Witch trials, Crusades, Inquisition, Conquistadors, Rwanda and the current war between Catholics and Protestants in Ireland. So the next time Miss Shannon or any theist thinks that Atheism is the downfall of the US, consider that Atheists only make up .21% of the prison population, versus 84% for Judeo-Christians! Re asses yourselves.

    “The difference between an Atheist and a Theist is when an Atheist is in a dispute, he will pick up a book; when a Theist gets in a dispute they pick up a weapon.” Suffolk Freethought


  10. “I don’t recall freedom of religion meaning no religion”. seriously, the stupidity of this Alice character is like watching a dog bark at its reflection in a mirror; it’s funny at first, but then it’s just sad and you pity their stupidity. Seriously Alice, grow the fuck up. Forcing people to be of a religion is what America was founded on ending. If you don’t like it, YOU can leave.



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